Kayani concerned by Indian LoC violations, allegations

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Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Kayani on Friday said Pakistan was concerned over the repeated violations at the Line of Control (LoC) by India.

Referring to latest statements by the Indian military leadership, particularly, the Indian army chief, alleging Pakistan Army and ISI’s support to terrorism, General Kayani said they were unfortunate, unfounded and provocative.

The COAS said the cease fire was proposed by Pakistan and agreed to by the two countries in 2003.

He added that rather than hurling such baseless accusations, India would be well advised to respond positively to Pakistan’s suggestion for holding joint or impartial investigation into the LoC incidents, preferably by the United Nations.

He said the Pakistan Army was exercising restraint but the same should in no way be used as a pretext for leveling baseless allegations that vitiated prospects of regional peace.

The COAS said the Pakistan Army was fully supportive of the peace process initiated by the government.

On the other hand, the mystery surrounding the 15-day long gun battle in Shala Bhato in Indian-held Keran sector deepened with reports that not only the bodies of the infiltrators not found, but the Indian army had not recovered a single weapon from the encounter site.

Indian army had said that it fought with infiltrators for two weeks and made tall claims of a victory

Lt Gen Gurmit Singh, Corps Commander, 15 Corps, under whose operational area Keran falls, confirmed to Hindustan Times that their prolonged searches for over six days had failed to bear results.

“Eight search teams comprising 150 soldiers conducted searches over six days but could not get a single dead body or any type of arms.”

To avoid queries from the high-ups and government, the corps commander said it appears that the “infiltrators were able to take bodies and material back.’’

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  1. Kiayani is more dangerous to the security of Pakistan than anything else. In his six year of service as the COAS, he has done more damage to Pakistan army than Indian army ever could. He survived his term by being a "yes" man to the leadership, Pakistan and foreign countries. He is the defination of coward.

  2. Pakistan Army should respond promptly to Indians. After a long time Pakistan got a great army chief in General Kiyani.

  3. The Indian corps commander said it appears that the “infiltrators were able to take bodies and material back.’’ If the Indian top brass is himself so unsure about the keran battle goes to prove their lack of reality. [ and i, irum, used to think that the Indians had a fertile use of their imagination in their film industry only]

  4. We”ll know exactly what Pakistan army is doing now in a future memoir from some one. Usually lying through the teeth like in 1999, 1965,71..,,
    Loc skirmishes are a good distraction since PA is losing all over internally to TTP and Baluchi freedom fighters. The other possibility is PA is putting Nawaz in his place, the same way they did in 1999. Zardari was shown his place with Mumbai 2008.
    As they say other countries have armies. PA has a country at its disposal. And it is disposing it.

  5. 1948 got part of Kashmir back, 1965 Indians were shown there way home, we lost 1971 because of our political leaders. Still have control over highest point in Kargil. Pakistan should fully support Kashmiri freedom fighters and Khalistani Sikhs, That will put india to its place once again where they were in 80's.

    • Dear Nadeem, You remind me of my past youthful exuberance. One must get one,s facte right. In 1948 we had an army with nearly no weapons. We relied on the tribesmann from the frontier to wage war in Kashmir. It was their brutalising of the kashmiris which forced the ruling Raja to ask the indians for help. OK i agree we got a sliver of Kashmir instead of the whole!

      Next your assumption of 1965 war. I am not sure where are you getting the facts from because i was there on the front as a final year medical student(in the sialkot sector and Khem Karan) . We were almost cut into two by the indian army. Thanks to PAF we were saved and the indians were mauled. Next the indians came visiting Lahore and they did visit it but they thought they were landing into a trap ,so instead they decided to pitch tent outside lahore near Batapur(? does it still exist ?excuse my ignorance—i left a long time ago).Our Army leadership did not know about Lahore invasion until BBC reported it! Our youthful officers in Pyjamas rushed out with guns and saved lahore and blew up the bridges.
      What happened in Khem karan ? We fought with wrong maps and lost nearly 100 tanks in no time because the indian army knew about the canals better than our generals. The indians just blew up the canals leaving our patton tanks stranded. President Ayub agreed to a caese fire and went to Tashkent. Was there a word about Kashmir. PM shastri was so shocked at Ayub's charity that he died of a cardiac arrest.
      To be magnanimous we did advance in jumb jurian but had to retreat after the Tashkent pact or defeat –i leave it to you to decide!
      What did we gain from Kargil adventure? Nothing but condemnation all over except inpakistan. The bravery of our sldiers has never in doubt but it is the intelligence our leaders that raises questions. I love pakistan more than what perhaps you think but facts should be told. May be i am not correct because age has mellowed me but war solves nothing in the present context. Greetings from far off!

      • A person who ran away from his country to be a third class citizen elsewhere has the gall to talk about events he saw from ,NOT HIS EYES but HIS BEHIND. It is fashionable especially like taxi drivers or garbage man turned Dr to please his masters in any manner.I need not mention the complete list of manners but becomming a namak haram is the worst form we look at here. Finally all your description of various operations is crap.I do not know whose front you were in but certainly not on any battle front.

      • Dear MM Khan. Tribsmen were called there long after Rajas so called letter to the indian govt. which is by the way no where to be found.
        As far as 1965 war is concern you were at one front as a medic. Being from a army family and I mean fighting army family I have first hand knowledge of what happened and where. If you think Tashkent pact was a defeat so any pact is a defeat. Fact remains that despite of every thing Kashmiri people are still fighting with or without our help if you think otherwise give me one reason why 700k indian army still there.

        • Dear Nadeem, iam exteremly gratful for your reply. Since you belong to a army family,there lies the truth and not with me. I was a young idealist and wanted the issue to be settled once for all. Could you kindly correct me on the Sialkot front and khem kharan front or the Lahore sector. My knowledge comes from the history of 1965 war. Well iam glad to be put in my place if i am wrong but that is what a polite exchange of ideas is all about.
          Kashmiris are brave people and deserve accolades for their struggle to be liberated from brutal occupation.One can kill people but never a movement as history teaches us. Thank you again for a polite reply. Have a nice weekend.

          • .
            From Kayani to Kashmir, nothing makes a Pakistani life better …
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            Read Pakistani's comment (above) one more time and you could guess the kind of ulcer he is suffering from …
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          • After 40+ years Sir look at the end results of the war not the battles. Even in Khem Kharan and Lahore of course there were loses but in the Army was able to held up its grounds.

          • You must all read a published book about Indian Defence Minister's Diary notes ( in 1965) compiled by his Staff. 1965 War, the Inside Story: Defence Minister Y.B. Chavan's Diary of India-Pakistan War
            AuthorsR. D. Pradhan, Yashwantrao Balwantrao Chavan
            PublisherAtlantic Publishers & Dist, 2007.
            A little knowledge is a dangerous thing this is the case with the Dr,. Mr. Nadeem and Anon. Incidently to correct you KHEM KARAN is an Indian Town which was captured by Pakistan Army in 1965. I think even with silghtest remorse Anon should get heart attack he/she seems to be no more than a JUGAT person from our socalled theaters.

          • I can only laugh at you but it is not your fault, this is what your M0r0ns have told you.. here is the fact. read it..
            At the start of the war, Indian strength was limited to one armored division and one independent armoured brigade, along with six armoured regiments supporting infantry divisions. Pakistan had two armored divisions, with the then very modern M-48 Patton tanks. India had an equivalent tank in the Centurion, but their strength was limited to only four armored regiments.
            After the war It was here that more than 60 tanks of the Pakistani army were displayed at the end of the September India-Pakistan conflict. The Pakistan Army tanks were captured at the Battle of Asal Uttar by India's 4 Mountain Division and it became a memorial to the Pakistani tanks being bogged down in the marshes during the 1965 War. The tanks were displayed for some time after which they were shipped to various cantonments and army establishments in India for display as war trophies.

          • Cont'd
            The Indian Army managed to capture 97 Pakistani tanks as a result of the botched assault by the 1 Armoured Division of the Pakistan Army at the Battle of Assal Uttar on 10 September 1965.[2] Six Pakistani Armoured Regiments took part in the battle, namely the 19th Lancers (Patton), 12th Cavalry (Chaffee), 24th Cavalry (Patton) 4th Cavalry (Patton), 5th Horse (Patton) and 6th Lancers (Patton).
            The Indian forces in the field that day consisted of three Armoured regiments with tanks of varying quality, the Deccan Horse (Shermans), 3rd Cavalry (Centurion) and the 8th Cavalry (AMX-13). The battle was so fierce and intense that at the end of the war, the Pakistani 1st Armored division had lost about 97 tanks in destroyed/damaged or intact condition. This included 72 Patton tanks and 25 Chaffees and Shermans. 32 of the 97 tanks, including 28 Pattons, were in running condition. The Indian 4th division lost 32 tanks, mostly Sherman tanks, fifteen of which were captured by the Pakistan Army.
            If you are son of your father, state specific facts and also disclose the sources. You Pakistanis are the most misinformed cl0wns.

          • Dear Nadeem let it not be forgotten i HAVE never questioned the bravery of Pakistani soldiers. I too had relatives in the army. I knew our army was being trained in the secret sites in and around Murrey. One of my army realative told me in one short sentence " our army is a defensive army and don.t ask more!" I quite agree it is 40 years it happened but it is not even past yet if we repeat it again. We did it again in Kargill without considering the political consequences of the sacrifices of brave soldiers. Hats off to Musharraf for crossing into India and spending the night with his soldiers. I have the greatest respect for the armed forces. I wish i could say the same about the politicians.

  6. I can't stop laughing after reading this article. Are you guys running a national daily or what. Seriously guys India also wants peace with pakistan. PA is trying to heat up the LoC by supporting the infiltrators so that they can go to UN because they know they can't get kashmir from india on their own. And on the shala bhata issue, seven bodies were found and a huge cache of arms were recovered. Don't just blindly trust your army and politicians. Also read some indian daily first.

    • Very funny india is trying to find peace by financing BLA terrorists and TTP. I think you should not trust your army blindly. As far as Kashmir is concern we don't have to do any thing Kashmiri people are enough for 700K coward army in IOK.

  7. Pakistan army is the only army in the world that has lost all the wars that it started…surrender of 93000 soldiers and loosing half the country in less than a month is an achievement that only Pakistan army can attain. Kudos to them…Now they are so scared they have outsourced a low intensity war to brainless jehadis …like LeT ..
    Read Nazam Sethi's interviews on You Tube (hahahahah I hear they banned it) about who started the war and who had a big slap on the face…whenever the ban on social media is lifted watch those videos…

    • They lost in 1961 too right against china. Also read Kuldeep Nayer and then say hahaha. Let will remain there as long as RSS is there.

      • ,Dear Nadeem, India did not only lose to China but also begged help from USA whom it had earlier snubed.

      • Are you China or Chinese poodle ? RSS and LeT can not be put in the same bracket by any stretch of imagination. LeT , along with so many other paki organizations, is banned and categorized as a terror outfit by several countries as well as UNSC, and there is bounty on its chief's head !!! which country has declared RSS a terror outfit ????
        For you Muslims, every non-Muslim is a terrorist because he does not believe in what you believe in. Islam is root cause of so many conflicts in the world because it is basically violent and intolerant.

        • When you don't have a logic use abusive language fact remains that india humiliated by china and Pakistan in 1948 and 1965. col prohet and his louts are eamples of rss terrorism and gujrat killings are axample of hindu intolerance. That's the problem with you Indians you people get upset when shown mirror.

          • What is abusive in my comment..pick one word that is abusive ??? Can you ? I guess you know at least little bit of English. Do not forget to point out an abuse or admit you are an illiterate Jehadi.
            Each of my argument is substantiated by a fact like banning of Pakistani organizations by UNSC, EU and several other international bodies is a fact. Osama being found is a fact, Pakistanis like Faizal Shehzad, and Pakistani origin terror blood Tawwur Rana, Afia Sadiquie, Dawood Gilani convicted of terror acts is a fact. Hafiz Saeed carrying an award of million dollar on his head is a fact. Drone attacks are a fact. These are Pakistanis who are caught by other countries, not by Pakis themselves because terror is sanctioned by both Islam, as well as Islamic Republic of Pakistan !! Col Purohit was caught by Indian security agencies for allegedly committing an act of terror on Indian soil. He will face the consequences of his acts. That is what civilized countries do. But tribes live by the sword, violence comes naturally to them and no wonder they become pariah states within a few decades of their survival.
            Learn the meaning of logic first and also look up in the dictionary the meaning of word 'abuse' before displaying your small-mindedness here and making a mockery of yourself.

    • Another left over of some Pakistani in his indescretion while in that country where J is pronounced as ZAY and where now Indians have left so many since their occupation in 1971.

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